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Silly question about Bluejays and peanuts...
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Hermirker Bottleneck
2006-11-11 01:02:05 UTC
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I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think
they are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
daisy
2006-11-11 03:09:38 UTC
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Post by Hermirker Bottleneck
I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think they
are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
Yes they stash some of them but they do eat alot of them. I but 15 pound
bags of peanuts in the hull and within 2 weeks they are gone. Bluejays love
peanuts ! I have had them start squawking at me if there is none for them to
eat. I lay some on my deck and they even come that close to get them.
Daisy
Steve in NC
2006-11-11 03:56:31 UTC
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Post by daisy
Post by Hermirker Bottleneck
I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think they
are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
Yes they stash some of them but they do eat alot of them. I but 15 pound
bags of peanuts in the hull and within 2 weeks they are gone. Bluejays love
peanuts ! I have had them start squawking at me if there is none for them to
eat. I lay some on my deck and they even come that close to get them.
Daisy
We had a jay in S. Fla that we called "Peanut" cause it would pluck the
nut from your hand. Jays love em
Herkimer Bottleneck
2006-11-11 15:17:12 UTC
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Post by daisy
Post by Hermirker Bottleneck
I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think they
are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
Yes they stash some of them but they do eat alot of them. I but 15 pound
bags of peanuts in the hull and within 2 weeks they are gone. Bluejays love
peanuts ! I have had them start squawking at me if there is none for them to
eat. I lay some on my deck and they even come that close to get them.
Daisy
Thank you.

I put out about a half pound in one of them wire feeders made for
peanuts the first day and it lasted a few hours. Now it's about 10 at a
time when I'm home. I bought the feeder for Woodpeckers, buy they
haven't got one out of it I've seen!
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Suzie-Q
2006-11-11 22:23:51 UTC
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-> "Hermirker Bottleneck" <***@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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-> >I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
-> >peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think they
-> >are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
->
-> Yes they stash some of them but they do eat alot of them. I but 15 pound
-> bags of peanuts in the hull and within 2 weeks they are gone. Bluejays love
-> peanuts ! I have had them start squawking at me if there is none for them to
-> eat. I lay some on my deck and they even come that close to get them.
-> Daisy

When I lived in Monerey, CA, I had bluejays that would land on my balcony
rail, hop over and take them out of my hand!

I've also seen bluejays watch a squirrel bury a peanut and then go dig
it up and steal it!
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lab~rat >:-)
2006-11-14 21:42:00 UTC
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Post by daisy
Post by Hermirker Bottleneck
I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think they
are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
Yes they stash some of them but they do eat alot of them. I but 15 pound
bags of peanuts in the hull and within 2 weeks they are gone. Bluejays love
peanuts ! I have had them start squawking at me if there is none for them to
eat. I lay some on my deck and they even come that close to get them.
Daisy
They're greedy and they swipe them before the others can get them and
stash them, then forget where they put them. Word of advice, don't
feet them raw peanuts unless you want peanut plants.

Back when I had less to do than I do now, we put a pile of them on a
sundial and tied one with a ten foot length of monofilament line to
the dial. It was the last nut they would pick, but they'd grab it
every time and fly ten feet through the air just to have it yanked out
of their beak!

I know, I'm bad, but that was then...
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MaryL
2006-11-15 12:23:11 UTC
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Post by lab~rat >:-)
Post by daisy
Post by Hermirker Bottleneck
I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think they
are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
Yes they stash some of them but they do eat alot of them. I but 15 pound
bags of peanuts in the hull and within 2 weeks they are gone. Bluejays love
peanuts ! I have had them start squawking at me if there is none for them to
eat. I lay some on my deck and they even come that close to get them.
Daisy
They're greedy and they swipe them before the others can get them and
stash them, then forget where they put them. Word of advice, don't
feet them raw peanuts unless you want peanut plants.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Ha! I hadn't thought of that (peanut plants, that is). I'm going to try
using peanuts in the shell in a feeder and hope that works. I have tried
using unshelled (plain, unsalted) peanuts in a peanut feeder, but it was a
complete failure. In each case, the birds completely ignored the feeders
(although they devour nearby suet and seed). The peanuts eventually
spoiled. I was too slow getting the last batch out, and they had softened
from the humidity -- started to form some *unpleasant* "peanut butter."

MaryL
Criag
2006-11-17 17:17:32 UTC
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Post by MaryL
using unshelled (plain, unsalted) peanuts in a peanut feeder, but
I am interested in seeing Bjays.
Please tell me what is like peanut feeder. I haven't seen it in PetSmart
store..
BTW, should peanuts be roasted for feeder?.

Craig
Post by MaryL
Post by lab~rat >:-)
Post by daisy
Post by Hermirker Bottleneck
I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think they
are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
Yes they stash some of them but they do eat alot of them. I but 15 pound
bags of peanuts in the hull and within 2 weeks they are gone. Bluejays love
peanuts ! I have had them start squawking at me if there is none for them to
eat. I lay some on my deck and they even come that close to get them.
Daisy
They're greedy and they swipe them before the others can get them and
stash them, then forget where they put them. Word of advice, don't
feet them raw peanuts unless you want peanut plants.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Ha! I hadn't thought of that (peanut plants, that is). I'm going to try
using peanuts in the shell in a feeder and hope that works. I have tried
using unshelled (plain, unsalted) peanuts in a peanut feeder, but it was a
complete failure. In each case, the birds completely ignored the feeders
(although they devour nearby suet and seed). The peanuts eventually
spoiled. I was too slow getting the last batch out, and they had softened
from the humidity -- started to form some *unpleasant* "peanut butter."
MaryL
Howard Lester
2006-11-17 18:20:15 UTC
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Post by Criag
Please tell me what is like peanut feeder. I haven't seen it in PetSmart
store..
BTW, should peanuts be roasted for feeder?.
Craig
for example:

http://www.duncraft.com/merchant.ihtml?pid=2120&step=4

or better for Blue Jays:

http://audubonworkshop.com/item_disp.asp?PN=0118
MaryL
2006-11-18 01:58:12 UTC
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Post by Criag
Post by MaryL
using unshelled (plain, unsalted) peanuts in a peanut feeder, but
I am interested in seeing Bjays.
Please tell me what is like peanut feeder. I haven't seen it in PetSmart
store..
BTW, should peanuts be roasted for feeder?.
Craig
I have one of the peanut feeders from Duncraft -- the one Howard Lester
pointed us to with the first link in his message. That is one of the
feeders I used for shelled peanuts, but they spoiled and blended together
(very quickly) in a sort of horrible "peanut butter." I want to try again,
and I have ordered a feeder that I can use for peanuts in the shell. I'll
update everyone on it soon. To answer your question about roasting -- I
plan to use plain, unroasted, unshelled (and unsalted) peanuts.

MaryL

MaryL
lab~rat >:-)
2006-11-29 12:58:53 UTC
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Post by Criag
Post by MaryL
using unshelled (plain, unsalted) peanuts in a peanut feeder, but
I am interested in seeing Bjays.
Please tell me what is like peanut feeder. I haven't seen it in PetSmart
store..
BTW, should peanuts be roasted for feeder?.
My Blue Jay feeder is my driveway...
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Steve McDonald
2006-11-30 23:08:21 UTC
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Post by Hermirker Bottleneck
I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think
they are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
In Oregon, Western Scrub Jays seem to stash all the nuts they take and
I've only rarely seen them eating any on the spot. Steller's Jays have
a more balanced attitude about this and often will eat a few before
they start packing them off to stash. The Scrub Jays usually take only
one peanut in the shell at a time, but some larger birds have learned
to carry two. The Steller's Jays have got them beat in this
department, as they can cram as many as 5 double peanuts down into
their throats. They fly off with their necks bulging and they might be
more vunerable to a hawk attack at that time. Since Steller's are
close relatives to Blue Jays, perhaps they also can load up more than 1
or 2 at a time??

Sometimes, a dominant pair of Scrub Jays will commandeer a peanut
feeder for their exclusive use. They work in a relay, with one bird
guarding the feeder while the other delivers nuts to their stash. I've
seen a pair take as many as 100 peanuts like this, while all the other
birds were allowed none. Once, a major windstorm knocked down a
neighbor's old, unused barn. A large group of Scrub Jays had hidden
their Fall harvest of filberts in an upper loft. There were filberts
scattered all over the area and I estimated the amount to be about 500
lbs. Over the next two days, about two dozen jays participated in a
relocation of the nuts to a new stash, that was reminiscent of the
Berlin Airlift. I never found where it was, but probably some other
old barn was the site.

Steve McDonald
Steve McDonald
2006-11-30 23:47:44 UTC
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Post by Steve McDonald
Post by Hermirker Bottleneck
I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think
they are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
In Oregon, Western Scrub Jays seem to stash all the nuts they take and
I've only rarely seen them eating any on the spot. Steller's Jays have
a more balanced attitude about this and often will eat a few before
they start packing them off to stash. The Scrub Jays usually take only
one peanut in the shell at a time, but some larger birds have learned
to carry two. The Steller's Jays have got them beat in this
department, as they can cram as many as 5 double peanuts down into
their throats. They fly off with their necks bulging and they might be
more vunerable to a hawk attack at that time. Since Steller's are
close relatives to Blue Jays, perhaps they also can load up more than 1
or 2 at a time??
Here's a description of my (mostly) squirrel-proof peanut feeder: I
took an old 12-inch frying pan and bolted a threaded socket for a
1-inch plumbing pipe to its bottom. I used a ladder and pounded a
9-foot length of pipe a couple of feet down into the ground and screwed
the pan into place. I drilled several 1/4-inch holes in the bottom for
drainage. About twice a month, I put a coat of waterproof marine
grease on a 3-foot section of the pole, to thwart the squirrels.
Regular grease or oil wears off or evaporates too quickly. It's
amusing to watch the squirrels try to shinny up and then start sliding
backwards. They learn quickly and unless new squirrels appear, they
don't try again, even if I don't renew the grease. At night, I have
several Flying Squirrels sail down from the fir trees to get peanuts
and sunflower seeds, but they are welcome visitors. On the rare
occasions native Silver-gray Squirrels come by, I toss peanuts to them
individually. The horde of non-native Eastern Fox Squirrels that
inhabit Western Oregon, don't get this service. At least I don't
terminate them (with extreme prejudice), as one of my friends does. He
has a permit from the ODFW to live trap them and has caught over 200 in
wire box traps over the past two years. He has also caught a few
Silver-grays and Scrub jays, which he releases. One Raccoon that had
to squeeze tightly to reach the bait walnut, filled the whole trap and
was furious at being strait-jacketed. It met an undisclosed fate, as
my friend has suffered extensive damage from them in his flower beds.
No Raccoon problem at my place, as my 23-lb attack-cat whups them all
as well as any intruding dogs that don't show him proper respect and
deference. Once in awhile, he gets a taste for squirrel and nails one
that incorrectly thought that all cats were too slow and stupid to be a
threat. He once trounced a rude, young police dog that made a pass at
him and then he backed-up and sprayed the pants-leg of a cop who was
trying to coax the dog out from its refuge under a patrol car. But, he
never catches birds, making him the only neighborhood cat on the Scrub
Jays' free-to-pass-unmolested list.

Steve McDonald
Herkimer Bottleneck
2006-11-30 23:52:15 UTC
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Post by Steve McDonald
Post by Hermirker Bottleneck
I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think
they are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
In Oregon, Western Scrub Jays seem to stash all the nuts they take and
I've only rarely seen them eating any on the spot. Steller's Jays have
a more balanced attitude about this and often will eat a few before
they start packing them off to stash. The Scrub Jays usually take only
one peanut in the shell at a time, but some larger birds have learned
to carry two. The Steller's Jays have got them beat in this
department, as they can cram as many as 5 double peanuts down into
their throats. They fly off with their necks bulging and they might be
more vunerable to a hawk attack at that time. Since Steller's are
close relatives to Blue Jays, perhaps they also can load up more than 1
or 2 at a time??
Sometimes, a dominant pair of Scrub Jays will commandeer a peanut
feeder for their exclusive use. They work in a relay, with one bird
guarding the feeder while the other delivers nuts to their stash. I've
seen a pair take as many as 100 peanuts like this, while all the other
birds were allowed none. Once, a major windstorm knocked down a
neighbor's old, unused barn. A large group of Scrub Jays had hidden
their Fall harvest of filberts in an upper loft. There were filberts
scattered all over the area and I estimated the amount to be about 500
lbs. Over the next two days, about two dozen jays participated in a
relocation of the nuts to a new stash, that was reminiscent of the
Berlin Airlift. I never found where it was, but probably some other
old barn was the site.
Steve McDonald
Interesting, thank you for telling your insights in the peanut mystery.

HB
Steve McDonald
2006-12-01 08:04:56 UTC
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Post by Hermirker Bottleneck
I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think
they are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
I imagine that raw peanuts in the shell would be the best for the birds
and would resist spoiling longer. However, the raw ones buried in the
ground may sprout and you might have peanut plants growing in your lawn
the next Spring.

Steve McDonald
Jerry Avins
2006-12-01 18:09:11 UTC
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Post by Steve McDonald
Post by Hermirker Bottleneck
I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think
they are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
I imagine that raw peanuts in the shell would be the best for the birds
and would resist spoiling longer. However, the raw ones buried in the
ground may sprout and you might have peanut plants growing in your lawn
the next Spring.
I understand that raw peanuts are much more likely than roasted to
support the fungus that produces aflatoxin, which is as deadly to birds
as it is to mammals. I would not use raw peanuts for food or feed
without boiling them first. Heat in the presence of moisture destroys
the toxin.

Jerry
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dicko
2006-12-01 20:16:09 UTC
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Post by Jerry Avins
Post by Steve McDonald
Post by Hermirker Bottleneck
I put out peanuts and the jays will empty the feeder of about 50 whole
peanuts a day. I've only seen 3 jays at any one time so I don't think
they are eating 'em all? Do they stash?
I imagine that raw peanuts in the shell would be the best for the birds
and would resist spoiling longer. However, the raw ones buried in the
ground may sprout and you might have peanut plants growing in your lawn
the next Spring.
I understand that raw peanuts are much more likely than roasted to
support the fungus that produces aflatoxin, which is as deadly to birds
as it is to mammals. I would not use raw peanuts for food or feed
without boiling them first. Heat in the presence of moisture destroys
the toxin.
Jerry
If you'd like to see some awesome Bluejay pictures (with peanuts, of
course) take a look at these. (broadband required)

this guy captured some amazing shots.

dickm

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1005&message=21072633
Howard Lester
2006-12-01 21:41:40 UTC
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Post by Jerry Avins
I understand that raw peanuts are much more likely than roasted to
support the fungus that produces aflatoxin, which is as deadly to birds
as it is to mammals.
That's because it causes flatulence, and when those crazy birds get together
under a tree... watch out..
Jan Owen
2006-12-01 22:22:59 UTC
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Post by Howard Lester
Post by Jerry Avins
I understand that raw peanuts are much more likely than roasted to
support the fungus that produces aflatoxin, which is as deadly to birds
as it is to mammals.
That's because it causes flatulence, and when those crazy birds get
together under a tree... watch out..
So, then, might this be a sort of solution to the question of the Biblical
"burning bush"???
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Howard Lester
2006-12-01 22:35:47 UTC
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Post by Jan Owen
Post by Howard Lester
Post by Jerry Avins
I understand that raw peanuts are much more likely than roasted to
support the fungus that produces aflatoxin, which is as deadly to birds
as it is to mammals.
That's because it causes flatulence, and when those crazy birds get
together under a tree... watch out..
So, then, might this be a sort of solution to the question of the Biblical
"burning bush"???
Thank you for continuing my thoughts! Anyone here got a match... ? :-)
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